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Will Obamacare Force Doctors To Treat Medicaid & Medicare Patients? – Is This America?
It’s immoral to force someone to pay for a service they do not want, and do
not believe they need, and Obamacare of literally founded on this
principle. It’s founded on immorality. It’s great and all if you THINK they
need it, but unless they do also, your opinion shouldn’t matter in their
life.
Obamacare and October 1st: Healthcare Triage #1
Short, Simple, makes sense.
Sure that Individual Mandate is going to suck, but even so, it is the
better for everyone.
Are we such a “great nation”, we will rather save $95 and let a
countryman/countrywoman die for it? (Sarcasm)
But I assume the Individual Mandate is automatic for everyone? Or if you
are under Obamacare only?
You’re always paying for other people’s healthcare, that’s how insurance
works. Where do you think the money comes from?
what fucking soup do you buy that costs more than £6.31?
[citation needed]
You do realize that companies get tax breaks for providing workers with
health insurance, right? So you, through your tax dollars, are already
paying for other people’s insurance, including insurance for Wall Street
bankers with the absolutely most expensive plans.
You realize when you buy insurance, you’re paying for other people’s health
care, right? It doesn’t matter if it’s voluntary or tax funded.
(continue) It was an assumption on my part. But I don’t think it was, in
any way, an unfair assumption. Your words(which you later stated that you
do not mean) matched that philosophy perfectly. It wasn’t an “artificial
misunderstanding.” It was a misunderstanding caused by your careless
wording. Want a constructive discussion of Obamacare? Truth is, I don’t
feel I’m qualified. I don’t even have a strong opinion one way or another
about it. I guess we’ll just see how it pans out.
The problem is that you said “things.” Not, “Obamacare.” Your statement
implied that it is wrong to force people to do things in general. Not just
for this specific topic. And though you may not be aware, but that is
actually a common philosophy of libertarians and anarcho-capitalists. It’s
called the non-aggression principle. They believe that it is immoral to
force people to do things, even if the outcome is beneficial. That is the
argument your statement lead to to believe you were making.
Now, you have three options at this point: A) Actually try to have a
constructive discussion with me on Obamacare; B) Leave it as it is C) Deny
all of this and continue to make yourself look worse and worse. Its your
choice.
How about this: instead of resorting to making my arguments seem
ridiculous, you actually try to have a genuine, real constructive
discussion and ask me something a bit more practical, like “Why do you
think forcing Obamacare on people is bad”? You will get better responses
out of people that way, and will have better, more affable discussions. You
are the one creating an artificial “misunderstanding” which is really just
you trying to save face at this point.
LOl no, I’m just pointing out your tactics. And they’re fraudulent –
reductio is legit IF you are not creating a Straw man, which you are, by
bringing in something completely out of the conversation. I never once
mentioned taxes. Ever. You are the one that brought that up. “Its immoral
to force people to do things.” Means what it says. I dont have to be more
specific – I am simply stating how I feel. You’re bringing things into the
discussion in an attempt to make it look bad. Try harder
So far, 90% of the people who signed up at the exchanges signed up for
Medicaid. That’s not a good sign. Many who did try to buy a plan on the
exchange decided not to go through with it because of the price increase.
And as for the tax credit, those who qualify will get it when they file
their taxes. Meanwhile, they’re paying full price for their health plan.
And collecting the credit may be problematic too, since when does the IRS
make things easy?
If he’s citing the comment section then he’s not citing the video, right?
Ah shit! Did you just turn me into a frog? Oh, no. You’re just one of those
people that think using Latin names for shit in an argument makes you
intelligent. Btw, you do know that Reductio ad Absurdum is a legitimate
form of argument and not a logical fallacy, don’t you? Just checking.
“~It’s immoral to force people to do things” is really ambiguous. From now
on, be more specific and you won’t have these misunderstandings. Don’t just
make generalized statements about such specific things.
Have her sign up on the exchange website and compare the plans available to
her there to the coverage/costs she’d have if she gets covered by your
dad’s insurance. Chances are the plans available to her on the exchange
will be at least competitive with what she’d have under your dad’s plan.
People like degraff don’t understand the concept of mutualism or even
cooperation.
See what I said was in the context of Obamacare. You are attempting to blow
it up to encompass everything. Unless I specifically stated “forcing people
to pay taxes through the barrel of a gun is wrong.” you cant blow up what I
said, its a logical fallacy. You are assuming things and going to Reductio
ad Absurdum in an attempt to take what i said to the extreme. I never
specified taxes, this was in the context of Obamacare ONLY. Which makes
sense, since this VIDEO is about it. Try harder.
Like I told you, you comment has also been flagged as spam(which is why you
look like an ass). You just can’t see it because it’s your comment. If you
don’t believe me, you can sign in on a different account and check. And no,
I didn’t take it out of context at all. Clearly you don’t know what that
means. All your new statement proves is that you’re being logically
inconsistent. One minute you’re saying that it’s wrong to force people to
do things and the next you’re saying it’s ok sometimes.
He could be citing it as evidence of the popular discourse on the issue, or
as different efforts to educate the public on the effects of Obamacare, or
she could be citing the comment section for the extreme positions expressed
there in. Citations aren’t always like they are in a grade 12 history
paper, some people work in fields that engage with this sort of stuff.
You realize “purchasing Obamacare” is simply choosing and buying
catastrophic health insurance right? Since you are ably employed, I’m sure
you are already on some sort of health plan and therefore don’t need to
worry at all about the issue, if not, just think about how much money
you’ll save when you get into a car accident or get hospitalized for swine
flu.
Kisuke Urahara 1 day ago This has been flagged as spam show • Not Spam The
only person making themselves look like an ass is you. But by all means,
keep at it 🙂 But that’s not my logic. You’re taking my quote out of
context. My logic, which I will repeat: I think there are boundaries that
the government should operate on and these new boundaries break them. I’ve
never mentioned taxes, you’re bringing that in to attempt to invalidate my
argument. Try harder 😀
You don’t. Who is this guy? Is he an expert? Did he cite any of his sources
Why don’t you quote me. Want me to make a video? What do you want it to say?
but, before we party, lets remember that “federal dollars” are a myth.
those are going to be debt. debt is being to be payed off by your kids.
federal dollars are your kids dollars. thank you for the debt.
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this eventuality was planned for. what is going to happen is the gov’t will
now offer funding for students to attend medical school with the
understanding that they will need to serve a set number of years after
finishing their residency providing medical services to medicaid/medicare
patients as a way of repaying their tuition grant.
THE ENTIRE ObamaCare TAX LAW needs to be REPEALED NOW! Obama Biden Pelosi
Reed and Boehner should RESIGN NOW!!! Damn Communistic Fascists!
Doctors already treat medicade medicare patients. Obamacare TAX does not
‘EXPAND’ health care, it restricts OUR choice of doctor. I DO NOT WANT TO
SEE A FREAKING DOCTOR TRAINED IN ASIA! I want to CHOOSE MY OWN DOCTOR,
Thank you very much!